Godsmack – The Oracle
If I’m being honest, rarely ever does an album interest me after just one listen. Godsmack’s fifth studio album, The Oracle, was no exception. These giants of hard rock (speaking purely of their popularity rather than their stature, obviously) have a career than spans more than a decade, but you’ll find the same song writing formulas on The Oracle as you did their previous efforts, and as far back as their self-titled album released in 1998.
Admittedly, I was a big fan of Godsmack several years ago, and I believe they were an instrumental part of the process of cutting my musical teeth, so to speak; however, I think I grew out of their sound. At least I did some growing, because they, as a band, never really have. They subscribe to the philosophy that “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” Evolution is simply not on this band’s agenda.
If you’re familiar with Godsmack and their previous albums, then you basically know what you’re doing to get with The Oracle. Lots of tribal drum patterns, copy and paste guitar solos, and fairly cheesy, over-the-top lyrics. Lyrically the album is fueled by anger, aggression, hostility, demons, religion…blah blah blah. I had numerous moments while listening to the album where I thought, “Hey, that sounds a lot like ‘<insert Godsmack song title here>’ from <insert Godsmack album name here>.” The only variation you really get musically is from the harmonica in “Devil’s Swing”, piano in “Love, Hate, Sex, Pain”, and strings in the album’s title track. But that being said, there’s no denying the band’s ability to write catchy songs. While the album didn’t interest me much initially, after a couple of listens, I would wake up with certain songs stuck in my head.
The album opens with its first single, “Cryin’ Like A Bitch”, which is loud, aggressive and angry. Appropriately, the video for the track features a bunch of testosterone-fueled dudes from the UFC beating each other down. Let’s be honest, who doesn’t love to watch people get pummeled? There’s not much depth to the song, but still, it works.
Another noteworthy song is “Love-Hate-Sex-Pain”. While I must admit, I’ve never really heard the resemblance in Sully Erna’s vocals to those of Layne Staley (Alice in Chains), one listen to this song changed my mind. The layered vocals are so reminiscent of Staley and Jerry Cantrell’s harmonies that it’s downright haunting. Add to that, the piano “outro” mixed in with the vocals and it’s enough to give any Alice in Chains fan goosebumps.
The album ends with a six minute twenty-two second instrumental. Yes, you read that right – it ends with an instrumental. What a great way to kill the momentum built from the rest of the album. The song does add an interesting dynamic, but would have been better placed a few tracks earlier. It offers up lots of riffing, Metallica style, while incorporating some beautiful string work.
I never expected to like The Oracle, but I have to admit that it really grew on me. Fans of Godsmack will most likely love it. Fans of mainstream hard rock might find it’s worth their time to check out the album. Metalheads, well…who am I kidding? You’ve already made up your mind.
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May 1st, 2010 at 8:16 pm
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May 1st, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Ha Ha Ha! Just the fact that YOU say we know nothing about music because we gave the ALMIGHTY Godsmack a 3.5 is WEAK! Fanboys…gotta love em' LOL! Look son, when you want to play with the BIG BOYS and take constructive criticism like a man….come back and see us. LOL! What a MOUTHBREATHER!
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May 1st, 2010 at 8:39 pm
I think the review is spot on. Seeing that Godsmack's sound has never really progressed at all over the years, Ive moved on. Yea Lee I think its funny too, people like Eternallies are hilarious. I bet they have a Godsmack tattoo as well.
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May 1st, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Bravo Jen. Nailed it. Also, haters gonna hate. They just jealous.
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May 1st, 2010 at 9:45 pm
you people no nothing about godsmack, you site and read this crappy site reviews and agree with every loser here, "o the review says godsmack suck's so they must suck because i can't think for my self. losers like lee, steve, & adam, what music do you fags like limp bizkit yo.
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May 1st, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Wow "This site sucks" with your fantastic grammar, you are obviously a mental giant. LOL! Apparently Godsmack fans are like H.I.M "fanatics". The only difference is they have a driver license, hair n funny places, an a prison record.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:01 pm
the comment from "this site sucks" gave me a migraine from all the fantastic 3rd grade grammar that was used. Who's got the Excedrin?
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:02 pm
This is hilarious! Lee that last response is priceless. Godsmack fans are so ridiculous. Godsmack are sub par musicians (beside Shannon) that have cashed in over the years due to mindless idiots like these people. I gave up on these hacks a long time ago. Let them keep buying these horrible cds and bitching that it sucks. Stupid asses!
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Lee is worthless piece of shit, who got his ass fucked by Adam. I can't believe how gay you guys look. Cock suckers.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Jen Rochester is a BITCH!
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Wow you guys couldn't handle my review so you had to delete? That shows how losers you are. GAAAAAAAAAAAAYS!
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:15 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Wait, let me catch my breath…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Hey fanboys…….here ya go…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:15 pm
You fanboy types are the worst. Yeah, this entire site sucks because YOU disagree with the review. These kinds of comments kill me. Godsmack has been the same from day one. The might as well release the same album over and over with a new cover and title.
Okay, you disagree with the review? That's totally cool. We welcome difference of opinion with open arms and diverse taste is what makes everyone unique. Telling us that we don't know anything about music because the majority of our site's writers dislike this album is just crap. So what should we do, praise this album based on the simple fact that Godsmack has gotten loads of radio airplay and has sold a lot of records? We would basically be catering to the Godsmack fanbase and not basing our review on our personal opinion. That would be a waste of time.
I'm sure it would really go over well with you if I went to your house, told you your entire album collection sucks and that you have the worst taste in music ever. Give me a break. People like that should be lumped in with all of the fanboys and girls that posted whiney comments in the latest HIM album review.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Daryn you are exactly right. If you just catered to their fanbase like most sites do, then your doing an injustice. Im not a fan of the band at all but based on the review, I think im going to check the cd out. Its fair and well written to say the least. I think a 3.5 is more than fair.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Also, you guys do realize that the album received a 3.5, right? That's 3.5 our of 5 and you guys are complaining. 3.5 isn't that bad of a rating. In fact, I think Jen was fair with her review. You guys act like it received a 1 out of 5 or something. If you guys think this album should get a perfect 5/5 just because it's a Godsmack album, then your perspective on music is really skewed.
Instead of crying about this review, why don't you guys venture outside of your safe, radio-friendly zone and go check out some of the metal album reviews. You might just find something that appeals to you and realize that we know a thing or two about music (despite your assumption that we don't know anything). Run along now.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:23 pm
In nutshell: Anything comes from your website is total crap. End of story.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Thanks, Jessica. I always checkout albums regardless of whether or not I had a negative prior experience with the band's albums (unless it's a band that I continually dislike music from).
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Though I don't COMPLETELY agree with the review, there is no doubt godsmack stick to the same formula. The guitar solos are extremely repetative as well. With that said, I found this album to be a better effort than their last two. I am pleased with the album.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Hey "LOL" or should I say…Mr San Diego (aka. "Whales Vagina"…Anchorman rules!) Yea making new names doesnt help your cause…..you still look like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6jT3Q3gyvs&feature=related
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Hey Lee. you are one retarded fuck! I can't believe you are spending your time searching for some shitty videos to post them.
A HUGE FART FOR A MOTHERFUCKER NAMED LEE
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:34 pm
There you go again Mr. San Diego…..I see your searching for RATT, LADY GAGA, DISTURBED, MEGADETH and 30 Seconds to Mars COVERING LADY GAGA….and I'm the one with the problem. LOL! RATT and LADY GAGA? Really? I'm speechless….HAAHAHHAHAHAH
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:37 pm
Well I was checking some of your latest review to see if you guys can get any shittier with your reviews. I was amazed! No wonder no one gives a fuck about your reviews. I searched for Metallica too. and HIT too. Be honest motherfucker.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:39 pm
OMG this is so damn funny. I cant believe that these morons keep posting.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:39 pm
The comments get better every time. It's funny how no one gives a fuck about our reviews and yet record labels still send us albums to review, and tons of people visit the site.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Dude honestly how old are you? You searched for Metallica? I bet your like a 40 yr old that still lives with your mom. Give it up douchebag, The NewReview is about fresh new music….
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Wow you are such a lair. You DOWNLOADED the oracle from God knows where.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:43 pm
Steve go fuck yourself please. Metallica is not for posers like you who know NOTHING about real music. I bet you are a Five Fingers Punch or what the fuck their name is. FUCK OFF!
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Yeah, I'm such a lair. I'm a place in which super heroes hide.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Look San Diego, it really doesnt matter what you think about the site to be honest. Your just one of the "Dumb Masses" that will continue to be happy with the same album over and over. Jennifer did a fantastic job on the album regardless of what you think. She was more than fair to your band and I wouldnt have been. All of our reviewers are EXTREMELY talented and thats all there is about it. I have put an incredible staff together that will tell it like it is no matter what fanatics think. We dont bend, we dont break…..so keep trying, cause its not happening.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:47 pm
"All of our reviewers are EXTREMELY talented " Let other people judge your reviews asshole. people judged, you guys failed.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:48 pm
These comments aren't even worth replying to anymore.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:51 pm
I come to this site all the time and they are the most honest and fair reviews I have seen on any site. Everyone of the writers are well versed and knowledgeable in all genres. Just because they didnt kiss the boots of your favorite band gives them even more kudos in my book. It might be time to give up and grow up LOL.
P.S. Metallica are a fantastic band for sure. But you really come across as a complete dumbass when talking.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:52 pm
I have to say that Godsmack did a good job as far as naming the song "Crying Like A Bitch" because that's exactly what all the fan boys are doing.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:54 pm
I hate to say that I did a good job as far as fucking your mom.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Trolls will be trolls.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Yea im bored already…Its like a cat playing with a mouse, once you kill the mouse, there really is not point anymore. Thanks again for posting your feelings LOL take care.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Wow, I'm so glad everyone appreciates my FAIR and UNBIASED review.
And no, "LOL" we didn't download the album from somewhere. If you actually knew anything about music (other than just popular rock played on the radio), you would know that we've reviewed albums that you won't be able to find anywhere else…albums that won't be released until months from now. But go ahead and believe what you want. I know a fanatic when I see one, and you can't change a fanatic's opinion.
I didn't bash the album. Just wait until it gets reviewed by another metal site that isn't so friendly to radio rock. They'll rip it a new one. I'm certain of it. I was generous in my review. Go listen to some real music like The Ghost Inside, As I Lay Dying, As Hell Retreats, Upon A Burning Body….
Be a bit more open-minded. You might benefit from getting out of your little mainstream box.
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May 1st, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Also, why would we go out of our way to download an album that we don't even like so we could review it on here? Don't you think we would tear the album apart if we really disliked the band so much as to go out of our way to pirate it and write a review? That's just silly.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Good one "LOL"…still stuck in 6th grade I see
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:05 pm
"Let other people judge your reviews asshole. people judged, you guys failed."
Oh, so it's okay for YOU to judge our reviews, but not okay for US to judge a Godsmack album? Hypocrite.
If we would have given it a 5/5, you'd be singing our praises. We're working with the band's PR on a giveaway. Do us a favor, and don't enter it.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:09 pm
"Oh, so it’s okay for YOU to judge our reviews, but not okay for US to judge a Godsmack album? Hypocrite."
Stupid bitch. You can judge Godsmack album, but saying your reviews are EXTREMELY talented is just bullshit. Just like your judged Godsmack album, people will judge you based on your judgment. In other words, people decide whether your reviews are fair or not, NOT YOU!
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:10 pm
And let it be known that ALL trash talking comments are coming from the SAME person. So it's not Godsmack "fans" – it's one singular wackjob.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:12 pm
LOL just look at yourself! You consider yourself a professional reviewer, yet you use the dirtiest words ever.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:13 pm
wackjob = crazy person
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Oh yeah that word is used by low-class people. Good job bitch! You just proved how crappy you are.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:18 pm
Hard to believe a metal site even reviewed this crap.
GODSMACK ARE WANNABES!!!
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:19 pm
This guy is out of his mind, lmao.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:19 pm
LMAO Please go kill yourself.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:26 pm
If we gave a My Chemical Romance album a 5/5, would it make up for this, LOL? I know you dig them.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:27 pm
No.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:34 pm
To prove you guys are lairs, you just mentioned two songs in your review. Cryin' Like a Bitch and Love-Hate-Sex-Pain. Then you listened to The Oracle (Instrumental song) from youtube. What about all the other great songs? War and Peace? Devils Swing? What If? Forever Shamed? You fuckers didn't even listen to the whole album in the first place. FUCKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Learn how to spell "liars".
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:45 pm
That was a typo you stupid fuck. Now stop avoiding my point.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:48 pm
LOL don't even bother with these ass holes, they don't know good music when they hear it, they like teen pop rock music like the group "boys like girls", they think godsmack makes the same record over and over, godsmack's last three records are completely different then the first two, that just shows they don't even know who godsmack is, so don't waste your time with them anymore, they are just amateurs.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:48 pm
You made the same typo twice on the simplest word ever, you retard.
What point are you even trying to make? I already made you look like an idiot in regards to you thinking we pirate albums in order to review them. Yeah, we went out of our way to steal a crappy album so we could write a fair and unbiased review of it. That makes about as much sense as your vacuous comments.
All of our albums are given to us directly from the record labels. How would we get albums months in advance when nobody else has them? Stop trollin'.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Daryn: http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=24554
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:51 pm
this site sucks: It's ok, I wanna make sure that these guys see me in their dreams!
Daryn St. Pierre: My point is, you didn't mention any other songs in your review. Why? Where is Saints and Sinners, Devils Swing, etc?
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:51 pm
all you people that leave comments and act like children work for this site, thats sad.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:53 pm
LOL you are a complete idiot. If you look at the reviews on the site, you will see that they don't review every song. Some reviewers talk about songs and some write a review without really mentioning individual tracks. Just because the reviewer mentioned those specific songs means nothing. You really are as stupid as you seem. By the way, if you know SO much about the album, how did you hear it exactly? I can tell by your phrasing and fantastic spelling that your obviously not a writer/reviewer anywhere, so that means you must have stolen it or something. Dude really, you are a complete waste of sperm. Great job Jennifer and great job The NewReview.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:53 pm
Hey "this site sucks"…
You've never even been to this site before we posted this review, and the only other thing you've looked at was the And Hell Followed With review, so how would you know what we like?
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Steve, I heard it from Youtube. I've been listening to it the whole day. Unlike you guys, you didn't even listen to the entire album. Fuckers. Posers, and songs of bitches. Go die please.
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May 1st, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Jen, stuff a stick up to your ass! I wanna see you crying like a bitch!
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May 2nd, 2010 at 12:00 am
"LOL", I didn't write this review. I don't comment on every single song in an album when I review it. If I did that, all of my reviews would be 1,400+ words. I try to keep them to 700 words or less.
this site sucks: We don't like to pussyfoot around comments, whether they're negative or positive. We're passionate about the music we review as well as listeners like our commenters and readers.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 12:00 am
Actually LoL I do not work for the site, I am merely a fan thank you. As far as you listening to it all day on Youtube. So what your telling me is that YOU have been listening to it ILLEGALLY on Youtube (seeing that its actually not out till next week, so that means someone leaked it and put it out there) all day? I mean cmon man, you are as dumb as we think you are.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 12:02 am
Steve, It's not me who uploaded it so I'm not doing anything illegal.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 12:05 am
lol go check the bio of these people and see the bands they like, you will really see what a joke this is.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 12:08 am
Doesn't matter. You are still listening to an illegal copy of an album, end of discussion. If you were to listen to this album (or any other bands album) and not like it, you probably wouldn't buy it as well as tell others not to buy it. Correct? Then you are doing the band just as much injustice as you would if you were to have put it up there yourself. I'm tired of messing with you anyway. I'm sure its probably bed time for you anyway. Mommy needs to put your jammies on and tuck you into your bed. That's pretty sad considering you'll probably be drawing social security in a few years.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 12:10 am
Steve, kiss my ass.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 am
godsmack is————— GOD of METAL————–4ever n everrrrrrrrrrr
but u guys u donn geddit
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May 2nd, 2010 at 3:42 am
I would shit on you guys from the highest place ever.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 5:09 am
First off I will start by saying that a review of a record that isn't even out yet is well stupid. You went to godsmack's site went on iheartradio who has some tracks for preview. Didn't listen to all the tracks and that isn't even all the record. As a musician I call foul right there if you don't have the patience to actually review the record. Instead go to a site listen to some tracks and sorry but unbiased review my ass. The whole section of likes and dislikes of the band not the record. No objectivity at all trying to sound music savvy by naming genres. Just like every idiot who thinks because they have ears they are a music critique. My review: I don't know because I haven't heard the full record.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 6:29 am
For me "The Oracle" is 5/5.
@ LOL why are you wasting your time in here making others people like me shaking their heads… i know you think the new album is great and so do i…
but why not accept other peoples regardes on the album? everyone has its personal taste in music… For me the new album has the most "best" songs one single godsmack had for me. Its just awesome lyrically and musically, but I still think that the review is just ok. Maybe you need to learn how to tolerant at all?
Btw Still waiting for the guys to make an european tour, never saw them live! =(
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May 2nd, 2010 at 6:57 am
JJ your as much of a dumbass as the other guy. You review an album before its out to get people talking about it once way or the other. If they reviewed it after it was out, then what is the point, right? By then, people have already bought it and formed their own opinion. Also, just because they didn't review EVERY song means nothing. You people are SO simple minded its unbelievable. Just because she picked out certain songs and then just made a synopsis doesn't mean they haven't heard the album. You people are so damn delusional! You have the mindset that "Since she didn't give the album a higher score or talk more about individual songs, means she has not heard the album as a whole." is just plain ridiculous! Take a look at other reviews on the site and you will notice, simpleton, that all of them are done that way. I'm not even on the staff and this stuff pisses me off! Another thing, "the new album has the most "best" songs one single godsmack had for me?" What the hell is that? You people are grown ass adults and you speak/type this way? It shows your education skills or should I say lack thereof.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 7:16 am
sorry my fault i meant the new album has the "best for me" songs that was made on any of the other godsmack albums… keep cool… i was just telling that I like it the most of all of their stuff yet, why being so offensive at all???
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May 2nd, 2010 at 7:41 am
The Oracle, Im not trying to be. Like I said, I'm a regular here and not in all my years have I seen such fanatics as I have with Godsmack and H.I.M. Both are extremely narrow-minded people and that feel that if the album didn't get a very high score then the site sucks and reviewer knows nothing. That kind of attitude just drives me crazy.
People need to realize that its "just a band", not a way of life. Lets face it bands make so so,average and even bad albums at times. Hell, she gave the album a 3.5 out of 5. People need to realize, that is basically a 7 out of 10 and not bad at all.
What people also need to realize is that albums are/can like movies. Just because your a fan of a particular series/bands work does not mean they can't make something that not everyone is going to enjoy. It happens and you guys need to understand that.
Its like those Star Wars fanatics that (all of us laugh at) wear costumes, talk about how anything other than Star Wars is garbage and if anyone talks negatively about it then you know nothing. It's a retarded mindset!
I am more than sure we all look at them and say what close-minded idiots.
Well, whats the difference when someone feels the same way about a band and/or cd? When they go on these tirades and it makes them look stupid. At least you seem to have a "normal" gene in your body.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 8:13 am
Steve, thanks for the support man…we really do appreciate it! As far as the review, we knew going into it that it would touch a nerve one way or another, and it did. So being completely honest, this was actually expected. You just cant make everyone happy, its just a fact.
I will say this to all the Godsmack fans around the world. The album was listened to (thoroughly) numerous times and an opinion was formed on that. Their was no "short changing" the band OR the album in any possible way.
I gave Jennifer the opportunity to review The Oracle due to the fact that she has been a fan since their independent release, in the fan club (yes folks, she was) and has traveled thousands of miles to see them live numerous times. She has a vast knowledge of both the band AND their catalog. She did a fantastic job and I'm glad that I gave her the opportunity.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
Man. I love seeing all these comments. All this traffic we're getting from one review. It'll make us even bigger. Thanks to all the commenters for helping us grow!
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May 2nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
Why is it so hard for people to grasp the fact that we get full albums from the labels themselves prior to release date for review? The beauty of this simple concept is to try and provide people with useful insight on an album so that they know what to expect when they decide to purchase it.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 10:06 am
If we can get Soulfly's album legitimately and review it two months before it is released, surely we can get the Godsmack album a week before it's released.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 12:59 pm
After reading all of these comments I have officially changed my mind. Godsmack IS the greatest rock band of all time. I’ve been a complete moron for liking any other band in any other genre. I have been deaf to the unrelenting, bad-ass, life altering metal they have been offering up over the last ten years and I am sorry. Godsmack IS the one, the only, truly talented and kick ass band of all time. I’m going to the gym now and watch UFC, and everyone that doesn’t agree with me are just fags anyways which loosely means they know nothing of music and should stop writing reviews. I’m right, you’re all wrong and that’s all there is.
Of course that’s all hypothetical assuming anyone here, in their angry, fanatical rants of defense had any valid points to make. We’re Fags? We’re Stupid? Maybe represent your case with a little subtlety and a lot less moronic hostility and you might get somewhere. Until then, by all means commence with calling me and the rest of our staff fags because your holy Godsmack released another stale, steroid driven, pile of nonsense that we were too educated to appreciate.
see also : HIM – SCREAMWORKS …. lol ….. can we see a pattern? I didn't know Sully had such a loyal fan base .. I think he and Valo share a like-minded audience…
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May 2nd, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Ryan,
Don't forget about Take One Car. lol
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May 2nd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Oh, and Adam…it's all about the "buzz"
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May 2nd, 2010 at 1:33 pm
I read through that Take One Car review and the comments as well. Even one of their musicians left a comment telling people to remember that it's a REVIEW. It's amazing how offended some people get when you personally dislike something that they adore. Those are the same people that call you a complete idiot for voting for a certain president or tell you that you're clothing choice is terrible. The same people that dictate their opinion to everyone around them as if its factual information and therefore everyone else should follow it without question.
Ignorance is bliss.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Honestly couldn't get into Godsmack when the numetal scene started to expanded a while ago and still can't listen to them today. Its a vocal and music style I can't relate to. No rating here just saying…
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May 2nd, 2010 at 6:17 pm
nice discuss, anyway to me godsmack sounded already mech on their previous release, I liked their previous stuff, the Alice In Chains vibe, anyway this album is as mech as the previous one.
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May 2nd, 2010 at 6:19 pm
they just got repetitive
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May 3rd, 2010 at 12:40 am
I would say I'm a pretty big Godsmack fan having liked them since the self-titled debut and having bought every album the day of release. Seen them 6 or so times live. Saying all of that…
I don't understand why people get so defensive when someone bashes Godsmack. I'm a musician myself so i KNOW how easy some of the riffs and songs are. First song I ever learned was a Godsmack song. If your taste primarily rests on sheer musicianship being displayed, lol your gonna hate Godsmack. Its hard rock. Its not metal. Its just simple rock and roll and Godsmack has carved their niche.
I thought the reviewer was honest. End of story. I would have liked more of her opinions listed but I understand she can't type an EPIC everytime a CD is reviewed.
One comment that bothered me though is someone questioning their muscianship. Just because their not shreding doesn't mean their terrible musicians. Bootsy Collins or BB King never hurried a note in their life. Slow but soulful. I know Godsmack doesn't equal Bootsy or BB but you get my point.
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May 3rd, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Most entertaining thing since Bozo the clown. Obviously troll is obvious
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May 3rd, 2010 at 7:27 pm
hey check it this way people, everyone will have opinions and not everyone will agree with them, especially with music. listen to what you love and dont let anyone change that.
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May 4th, 2010 at 11:55 am
3.5 is a bit generous…
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May 4th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. People are getting so pissed that they think it should have been a 5/5, and now dingle berry says "3.5 is a bit generous"
Wow.
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May 4th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
the difference between myself and others is that i understand this is absolutely opinionated… i enjoy some good metal while i also have a soft side for some trash metal, the sucker in me. i really like godsmacks first album and their live performance prior to IV was incredible, but i made myself enjoy IV and i cant see myself enjoying this album too much. although i have doubt, i will probably give it a try for sake of hearing new music. if necessary, i can always go back to ride the lightning and dream of metallica getting back together.
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May 5th, 2010 at 8:46 am
I actually like the old Godsmack stuff, so I will probably like this one. I have no beef with your review. I think it's great that you guys are objective, and don't let the band's popularity completely sway your opinions. I actually think a 3.5 isn't bad.
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May 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
WELL…. drama galore…
Its a fair review, every one is entitled to their opinion. I am a fan of Godsmack.. but i'm not gonna sit here and bash the reviewer.. every band gets reviews like this once or twice at least. It's something that some people just don't understand, EVERY BAND has their committed following and THERE WILL be people like LOL.. I think this was a well put review..
Only thing i can't stand are people that bash SO hard that they resort to calling ANY band or artist names.. I mean really, how grown up is that?!
good job jen
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May 6th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Great review Jen, i think you hit it spot on.
This is nothing new from Godsmack im a big fan of theres, but in saying that Oracle is still pretty good.
My favourite Godsmack album is still faceless.
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May 7th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
I have to agree with the reviewer. As a long time Godsmack fan, I am disappointed. There really didn't break any new ground with this album. Nothing stood out to me. It all sounds the same. Really sounded like IV. I know the were trying to sound heavier and less bluesy, but all I heard was blues. Maybe my taste in music has gotten harder and Godsmack really hasn't changed. Now I am listening to more Amon Amarth, Opeth, and Eluveitie.. so Godsmack def doesn't sound death metalish. Even my Windows Media Player categorizes them as "rock" and not metal. If I listen to this album some more, it might grow on me…but there's no originality. At least in IV, they had the female singing with Sully..that sounded cool. Maybe I am too brutal for them now. BTW, if I get some asshole saying I don't know what I am talking about, I've been to almost 10 shows and even meet Godsmack in a strip club after a show and hung out with them. I know this band well. I can officially say they r a good rock band…but NOT a metal band.
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May 8th, 2010 at 2:42 am
i agree with the review, however this is the first time i have been to this site and i have to say i'm very turned off by it, all of you are the most unprofessional critics i have ever seen, you're bashing him just as much as he is trying to bash you, maybe take some of your own advice and leave it well enough alone, suck it up, you really do not need to get the last word.
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May 8th, 2010 at 3:44 am
Gunslinger, its about having fun. If you take the time and read some reviews you will notice that quite a few have humor thrown into them. It keeps things fresh and makes for entertaining reads. The mere fact that you are turned off is ridiculous. Go read some boring site then. See ya!
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May 8th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Hey Gunslinger thanks for taking the time to let us know how you feel. First off, let me start by saying that we all work very hard at TNR to try and bring you the freshest reviews, news, album streams, etc. and I believe we do a great job at that. With that being said, I will not tolerate certain things and one of them being trolling. All of our reviewers/reviews are up for criticism and debate, just be constructive about it. Coming on here and trying to demoralize someone JUST because they may not like a particular band’s album is ludicrous.We have had others express their feelings about reviews before and not been as ridiculous as some.
There are numerous other sites out there that are filled to the brim with trolls like this and we will not be one of them. You just know that everytime you go read a review and or news, its going to be nothing but people talking trash. Things like that turn people off and when nothing is said, if makes the staff (of those sites) look like they don’t even care. Actually one of the original haters "LoL" has basically made good, been back numerous times and been very cool to say the least. People just need to realize there are just many ways to express those feelings other than pure venom and threats.
You used the term “unprofessional” in your comment and I would like to address that quickly as well. I feel that there is only so much "finger to the chest" someone can take before it’s time to stand up for yourself. We aren’t “stuffy music industry people” who decided one day to create a site, write reviews and post news. All of us bleed music and are very passionate about what we do. We are fans first and if that makes us “unprofessional” in your eyes then so be it.
Thanks again for checking us out…
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May 13th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
I All in all the review is fine, for the average "rock" fan. But if you're an actual Godsmack fan, this review is not on point. The one thing she got right was the ability of Godsmack to create a "hook" so to speak. It's hard to listen to Cryin like a bitch or Love hate sex Pain without repeating it over and over in your head….
I I will say i've never been to this site. But I'm heading to Rockfest tomorrow night to see my favorite band – Godsmack – rock the GDamn house, that of course after rob zombie gets off stage. I've seen Godsmack 4 times live, this will be my fith. From the late 90's when they were younger, crazier, and all about rock and a crazy show to a great concert at Independence hall in 2007, washington DC, where no pit ever evolved and all basically stayed in their seats except to stand up for the ballads. I'm a godsmack junkie, i love every album, from the lyrics to the riffs, to the beats, whether i'm driving, working out, or home working on a six pack – their cumulation of music can hit on very many levels, and capture very many moods. Again this review is stale to say the least – but she makes some good points for the casual fan or those on the fence.
the immature banter among both fans and staff is stifiling at best….comments are usually left to fans. I can see the reviewer chiming in per her defense; but to have multiple writers stand up to defend thier site has formed all the opinion i need. it's kind of like going to buy a used car – the more the dealer (this site) talks about it, the bigger the b.s. story. If your reviews were solid, there would be nothing to say. Godsmack refers to silence often in their tracks – maybe the staff here should take heed and recognize SILENCE is a far more powerful element than useless running at the mouth – SO STFU and respect a band that's multi-platinum – and quit hating that they have the right formula to capture enough fans to stay on top again and again – from tracks in movies, video games, to my ipod – godsmack rocks – and mixing the UFC into their video for crying like a bitch is one of the best marketing venutres to date for the band…why? cause they both target the same audience and both are the best thing going this day and age – those of us 20-30 have heard godsmack and watched UFC for a decade and i hope theres another decade of both to follow ~
I commented cause i'm bored at work – LOL cracks me up – i like his loyalty – i'd join him in the pit anyday ~ your writers going toe to toe with the likes of a random guest says alot about the integrity of your site in a whole – it lowers the worth of what was said in the review IMO
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May 13th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
ccwhrpwr thanks for taking the time to give us your thoughts. Take the time to read some reviews before saying anything about not being being "solid". Our reviews and reviewers are extremely solid from top to bottom…..just a fact, sorry.
So we are supposed to "STFU" because Godsmack are a multi-platinum artist huh? Yea, I don't think so. People come to The NewReview by THE THOUSANDS everyday because we DO NOT pull punches and play games with PLATINUM SELLING bands. If you want people to kiss band's asses then I suggest you visit others sites. I'm sure their are plenty out there that will appeal to people like you.
Like I said, thanks for commenting …
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May 13th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
ccwhrpwr is a chode! "I’m heading to Rockfest tomorrow night to see my favorite band – Godsmack – rock the GDamn house." That line says it all. You just have to love meatheads like this. Im sure that Godsmack tattoo right above your ass looks pretty……fanboy! Oh yea and you mention Rob Zombie too, boy his new album sucks major ass. If you like music for morons then I guess that’s why this guy loves it so much. Great job to everyone at TNR staff, much kudos!
I have been visiting sites for years and this is the only one that tells it like it is and does not play games. Its called passion douche-bag! Your passionate about a band, they are passionate about their work. Most sites say nothing at all and people quit commenting because they feel the writers do not care. Well they do here and I applaud them for it. Take a hike Cletus, you have some old Godsmack ass to kiss anyway.
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May 13th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
first off your writer contradicts herself in her review…she starts by saying "she rarely has an interest in an album after just one listen…and The Oracle was no exception" this basically sets up the reader to think she listened to it once for review purposes only and – never listend to it again. but a couple paragraphs later shes stating "While the album didn’t interest me much initially, after a couple of listens, I would wake up with certain songs stuck in my head." SO WHICH IS IT? do we believe her opening statement – which basically sets the tone for the rest of the article…or what she said later – that she listened to it a couple of times? pick one or the other…as a writer and a proofreader or editor i would have picked up on that right away, as it's misleading, and jsut a way to cover all grounds – basically "i'd never listen to it, i did once, by way of a job" versus the hooks kepts playin in my head so i popped it in again for another play – which sets a totally different tone. but then again – you seem to be wanting to sit on the fence regarding the album.
i listen to godsmack daily – and now the Oracle is one of the best – but c'mon give the guys some cred – they pull an audience and have been headlining major tours for a decade from the likes of Ozzfest to Cruefest – mainy times outperforming the main attraction. I understand your job is to listen and review new tracks/music – but giving The Oracle a 3.5 out of 5 is almost there, but not quite. 4 or 4.5 would've satisifed me…..
my comment isn't about a personal attack on your writers or your site –
I don't expect you all to STFU – the buzz created by sites like yours is good for Godsmack! This is an album that is now Billboards no. 1, which surely means you gusy have swung and missed….hindsight is always 20/20 – but pride is mans feircest trait – and i doubt you'll put that pride aside and actually leave a comment elluding to that fact.
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May 13th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Steve i'm gonna call you No. 4 – just cause your comments are that of Doug no. 4 from multiplicity – effin retarded!! how bored are you to be sitting cruising review sites just to suck ass to some writers – i've never seen rob zombie, but am anticipating a good show. i'm a fan of his movies and earlier music/albums, haven't purchased anything recent.
to sit here and say godsmack sucks is narrowminded. it's apparent they don't suck, they appeal to a mass audience and if you don't like them great. don't call out the people who do. you're entitled to your opinion as is everyone else in this world for one reason and one reason only…..but i doubt you're smart enough to recognize that reason! my taste in music is very vast, and forming an opinion about someone just because they are godsmack fans speaks alot to your level of intelligence – i'd have to say its nil.
Yes i'm off to the concert in C.B. IA tomorrow – and any true fan is going to say that. Keeping it on topic – this review is written in a way to cover both ends of the spectrum – dislike and like – it's not very difinitive – that's all i'm sayin. Either you like it or you don't – it gives no potential new listeners real direction – which i think is the point of a review.
"Great Party Steve" No. 4 that is…….hahahaha!!
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May 13th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
ccwhpwr,
First of all, I appreciate you visiting the site and taking the time to comment. But considering this is the only page of the site you've looked at tells me a lot about your intentions. You're here to stir things up. And because we care about what our visitors have to say and respond to their comments, you see it as an opportunity to argue. You're certainly not the first, and won't be the last. I would like to respectfully address several things you said.
"I’ve seen Godsmack 4 times live, this will be my fith….I’m a godsmack junkie, i love every album, from the lyrics to the riffs, to the beats, whether i’m driving, working out, or home working on a six pack – their cumulation of music can hit on very many levels…Again this review is stale to say the least – but she makes some good points for the casual fan or those on the fence."
I've seen Godsmack live six times. I met the guys. I interviewed them and wrote a review about the first show of the Faceless tour in Jacksonville, FL for their official fan club. So I would say I'm more than qualified to review their album. But the difference between me and you is the fact that I can step back and OBJECTIVELY listen to the album, without letting my personal feelings cloud my judgment. Since you "love every album", you're not able to give it an unbiased review. I'm sorry, but that's just a fact.
"comments are usually left to fans. I can see the reviewer chiming in per her defense; but to have multiple writers stand up to defend thier site has formed all the opinion i need."
You might be right when you say comments are usually left to fans. But it shouldn't be that way. That seems to be the case on music blogs/sites. People comment and the writers never respond. You know how that makes them look? Like they don't give a damn about what their visitors have to say. And that's not us. Take it or leave it.
"If your reviews were solid, there would be nothing to say. Godsmack refers to silence often in their tracks – maybe the staff here should take heed and recognize SILENCE is a far more powerful element than useless running at the mouth."
That's funny because you haven't read any other reviews here, and can't seem to take your own advice about silence. If someone says horrible things about your kids or family, are you just going to let them keep talking trash? No, you're going to stand up for them. Since when did being spineless become a requirement for writers?
And you like LOL's loyalty? Apparently you haven't read his last comment – "This may sound weird, but the more I read your reviews, and read your news, the more I appreciate the time you guys spend on keeping your website updated with the latest news and reviews. So. Friends?
" At least he was able to get beyond the fact that he disagreed with ONE review here.
"first off your writer contradicts herself in her review…"
Wow, no I absolutely did not. I basically said that I rarely ever like albums after I listen to them one time through, and I didn't like Godsmack's after I only listened once. But the more I listened, the more it grew on me. That's a simple concept to understand, is it not?
"as a writer and a proofreader or editor i would have picked up on that right away, as it’s misleading"
You're a writer/proofreader/editor? Do you commonly use "STFU" in your day-to-day? Given your comments I find it hard to believe, if I'm being honest.
"but c’mon give the guys some cred – they pull an audience and have been headlining major tours for a decade from the likes of Ozzfest to Cruefest"
Let me get this straight. We, as writers, are supposed to give Godsmack a higher rating than a band that not many people know about because they pull an audience? Are you being serious? All bands are on a level playing field which only adds to our credibility here, rather than deterring from it. Personally I don't care how awesome a band is live or how many fans they have. If you make a terrible album, then I'm going to say it's terrible. THAT, my friend, is credibility in its purest form.
Lastly, what so many people fail to understand is that a review is relative. Just because I gave it a 3.5 doesn't mean everyone should feel that way. But at the same time, just because you think it should be a 5, doesn't mean everyone should feel that way either. Just because you prefer coke over pepsi doesn't mean everyone should do the same.
I know you're going to have more to say. And I'm probably "being unprofessional" for posting this comment, but the staff here bleeds for this site, so don't expect us to stand by while you try to discredit us. We're not that kind of site.
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May 13th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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May 13th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
ccwhrpwr, we are brothers-in-Smack so I can understand why you are being so defensive. For us (Godsmack fans), Godsmack are:
- The best band EVER!
- The greatest band of all-time!
- The true definition of AWESOMENESS!
and the list goes on and on. However bro, you can't expect everyone to see Godsmack the same way we do, nor agree with anything we say. We are entitled to our own opinions, but we don't have the right force our opinions on others. You disagree with the reviewer? Not a big deal. Just smile and nod.
I used to one of the original haters (as Lee described me lol.), but like Jen said, I was able to get beyond the fact that I disagreed with one review. I don't even think about it. Turn the page my brother-in-Smack, it doesn't worth all the time you spend on your comments. The guys are not gonna edit their reviews, nor delete them, yet they are giving their readers the ability to exercise their freedom of speech by allowing them to comment on the reviews, that shows how open-minded these guys are.
With all that being mentioned, I really hope you take my advice, and realize that their review won't make any difference (with all respect to TNR staff members). Godsmack will continue selling albums as long as they have fans like us.
Just to make things clear, I've been checking the other reviews, and I can't deny that Jen gave the album one of the highest ratings so far. I've stumbled on other sites that gave The Oracle 2 out of 5. So look at the bright side of Jen's review. 3.5 out of 5 is so good compared to other reviews. Sure I disagree with some of the stuff she mentioned in her review, but life goes on my friend.
As long as the fans are enjoying The Oracle, that's all what matters.
I admit that I feel ashamed of all the bad comments I wrote, took one of Godsmack fans name (EternalLies) (Read the very first comment), said bad things about Jen, trashed Lee and the other guys. So I'm here to apologize again and make sure that everything is cool between us. Please accept my apology guys. :}
ccwhrpwr, you have my respect buddy, just take it easy, and keep SMACKIN' \,,/
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May 13th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
LoL, very well said my friend. You are welcome anytime and if you need anything feel free to let me know.
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May 13th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Thanks Lee. I appreciate it. :}
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May 14th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
On a separate note, I was incredibly bummed to discover that this album out sold the latest Deftones release.
I was completely unaware that Godsmack still had such a devoted following.
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May 15th, 2010 at 7:39 am
SHOW ME THE HOOK?
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June 21st, 2010 at 4:43 pm
All the trolls are here like this is Armond White reviewing Pixar.
Sorry for comparing you to Armond White.
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August 5th, 2010 at 11:49 am
I came back to revisit this site because…..
Godsmack has a new forum moderator. This moderator is some trick Sully banged years ago. She took over Another Animal, WerdWear, Godsmack and Godsmacks Facebook, Godsmacks myspace, and Godsmacks Twitter. And FYI…she ran WerdWear into the ground. After the site was hacked she posted pictures of the hacker on the site and other personal info. Not cool. Then the band decides to hire her to run the Godsmack message boards. This stalker bitch has banned all the 'old time' members and you now need to be 'approved' before being allowed to join the MB. And she's damn selective about who she lets in. You have to go through this chic before you are allowed remotely close to the band. If THAT weren't enough all the members of the message boards have contacted management, sent letters, petitions, etc to try and resolve this conflict. To no avail.
So while Godsmack definitely had a strong following before, they have blown off many of their fans now. And it isn't like they aren't aware. They are. Apparently they just don't care that some stalker bitch has taken over their internet presence and is turning fans away because she was good on her knees.
She has even posted a letter 'to the fans' from Sully about his 'new solo album' Avalon. The letter itself comes off like begging the fans to buy it and is quoted to be 'the best work Sully has ever done and he is most proud of it over anything else he's ever done'. It is obviously not written by Sully (unless he's gay) and he obviously couldn't be bothered to write his own letter, this bitch is now speaking for him too. It's sad because I know that Shannon and Robbie love the fans, too bad they don't get a say-so.
So all you Godsmack fans that are devoted, adoring, and loyal to the band…..good luck with that! They could give two shits about you.
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March 3rd, 2011 at 2:17 am
I think TNR is the most unbiased of all metal reviews sites i've been through, they even review korn III here dammit, not unlike other metal sites (purist) who thinks that they're metal gods because theyre all underground and all mainstreams are shit. Just keep rocking guys and good work. I like GODSMACK but jen is right they havent evolved ever since, but what the heck it still rocks and that's what matters right?, peace!!
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June 14th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
I found this site when searching for a review on The Oracle, after visiting the Wikipedia page on Godsmack and realising they had a new album out which I had missed. I won’t be back. While the review was informative and impartial or “fair” in its content – the comments just destroyed it.
With most sites I visit, the comments are almost always worth more to me than the actual review. But here, It’s like primary school. As a site, your writers should never directly get involved in trolling, or possibly be banned from posting in the comments section at all. You should have one neutral “community relations” person to handle that.
I don’t even know why I am writing this comment as it wont be published. btw; large scale comercial site using wordpress is not good. So is RedHead Design claiming “Designed & Developed by …” since you are using open source platform and code NOT developed by them.
Jock (yes I am scottish- no ginger here though) suggests that you all grow up. Big time.
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Lee replied:
June 14th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Wow! You totally just wasted your time.
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Josh Velliquette replied:
June 14th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
“I don’t even know why I am writing this comment as it wont be published.”
Cool story bro. You received your attention. We run things the way we would like around here and if that involves direct communication with readers then so be it. A ‘neutral “community relations” person’ sounds really exciting. You know, because the last thing we’d want to do is entertain the opinions of our readers.
Our responses may not be the most professional or politically correct, but having an open line of communication with our readers is not something we’re looking at crippling anytime soon. I would tell you to move on if you didn’t like it, but you seem to have your mind made up already.
We’re not going to lose any sleep over your absence.
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Jen replied:
June 14th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
I won’t address the whole “writers making comments” issue because we’ve done that plenty of times. But I will address your ill-informed statement about WordPress and the work I’ve done with it here. Since you’re obviously not aware of the popularity and flexible nature of WordPress, I’m sure you have no clue that some of the biggest websites/companies in the world use it such as Mashable, the NFL, the Library of Congress, MTV, TechCrunch, Playstation, Yahoo, Flickr, etc. Here are just a few sites that use it-
http://mashable.com/
http://blogs.nfl.com/
http://blogs.loc.gov/loc/
http://majornelson.com/
http://techcrunch.com/
http://newsroom.mtv.com/
http://blog.us.playstation.com/
http://ycorpblog.com/
http://blog.mozilla.com/
http://blog.flickr.net/
http://www.xxlmag.com/
http://blogs.blackberry.com/
Furthermore, most hard rock and metal sites run on WordPress as well. Secondly, I did in fact do all the design and development work you see here. It runs on WordPress, but that’s it. Clearly you don’t have a good understanding of open source development.
And thanks for providing a link to your site. It was incredibly informative. Obviously you’ve spent a lot of time on it. Thanks for the comment.
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TylerLawrence replied:
June 14th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
This site is great! The reviews/posts are great!! I find the comments to be entertaining at times
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RandomGuyDan replied:
October 9th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Basically, Oracle gets a 3.5/5 because it doesn’t offer anything that the previous albums weren’t already packed with. Play it as ambient music alongside any of their previous albums and you’d rarely notice any differences in the style.
And before you chock me up as a Gaga fanatic, you ought to know that I much prefer a range between old Metallica and Amon Amarth- guess that makes me a metalhead. Even so, Surtur Rising beats the pants off this rerun any day of the week. Seems to me that Godsmack is one of the pop/rock alternatives for wanna be individualists that end up in dance clubs at the end of the night. Don’t get me wrong, they were the bee’s knees when I was in sixth grade… but I moved on – while they didn’t.
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September 20th, 2011 at 6:34 am
Godsmack remind me of disturbed and that aint a good thing
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